I find JHK/JHB more threatening than CECAs in job market (2025)

ziggybam said:

Very easy for Malaysians to get PRs after working in SG for a few years.. They are abundant in HR, finance and accounting functions is most companies.

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Basically entire admin side of company is dominated by them.

I find that a lot of them are very workaholics (996 culture type) and spoil the market. Especially now they can't return home, they spend 7 days a week WFH and 16 hrs a day. For the same salary.

pieface said:

Most Singaporeans are already 3rd to 4th generation. Most of the younger ones can barely even speak mandarin or any Chinese "dialects".

The Peranakans are even longer as their ancestors came in the 1500s to 1800s.

JHK mostly study in their own Chinese vernacular schools back in Malaysia as they don't mix with the Malays and have their own school system.

It is not surprising that they are more fluent in mandarin and Cantonese.

Cantonese are also more inclined to speak with their kids with canto while Hokkien people for some odd reason find it uncomfortable to speak Hokkien to their kids.

I also don't know why even though I am of Hokkien descent. I guess it is because Hokkien has the association with gangsters and thugs while Cantonese has global recognition due to hong kong.

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Interesting observations.

Didn't know Malaysian Chinese have their own Chinese schools. I remember I saw their schools have a mix of Indians, malays and Chinese.

Pukunara said:

No issues at all. Sg govt is doing a great job.

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If there is no issue, then what are the FTs complaining about?

Are they stirring shiat even though they have leeched hundreds of thousands from Singapore? Such ungrateful and spiteful creatures!! Tsh tsh tsh.

pieface said:

Most Singaporeans are already 3rd to 4th generation. Most of the younger ones can barely even speak mandarin or any Chinese "dialects".

The Peranakans are even longer as their ancestors came in the 1500s to 1800s.

JHK mostly study in their own Chinese vernacular schools back in Malaysia as they don't mix with the Malays and have their own school system.

It is not surprising that they are more fluent in mandarin and still can speak Cantonese well.

Cantonese are also more inclined to speak with their kids with canto while Hokkien people for some odd reason find it uncomfortable to speak Hokkien to their kids.

I also don't know why even though I am of Hokkien descent. I guess it is because Hokkien has the association with gangsters and thugs while Cantonese has global recognition due to hong kong.

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Canton also have 14k and new Ngee Ann....

JHK and JHB mostly act pitiful and hardworking in office then backstab the sinkie.

Come here steal jobs and sell their MLM products.

Really leeches.

JHKs are ok, those in the PMET space are generally capable, about sinkie level. Those, I am perfectly fine.

It is the CECAs, that have wide disparity in the skillset. A big bunch of them a totally hopeless and that makes me wonder why they are in a cushy office jobs while our young adults are driving grab doing deliveries in their own country.

pieface said:

There is no language called "chinese" I think you are referring to mandarin. Most malaysian are of cantonese stock while most Singaporeans are of Hokkien ancestry.

That's why when they speak mandarin they have a very distinctive different accent. They also like to mix in canto words into their spoken mandarin like so hai, leng zai, dui leh all these. Their tone is also completely different.

English wise depend on how long they stayed in Singapore, those stayed for a long time is harder to tell but those newer ones is very obvious. They will never lose their JHK mandarin accent no matter how long they stay though LOL!

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If anyone is minority in their group, they will just speak cantonese. If speak up against that, they will say "just learn cantonese la, very easy one".

That is why I usually use proper English around them. When they say they cannot understand, I tell them to either look at dictionary, ask the addressee or simply roll my eyes. Some of them the command of english at managerial level is really questionable.

One reason why jhk and jhb are more threatening to us at the workplace is that they can speak Mandarin, so we don't have the advantage we have over pinoys, cecas, viets etc when working with jhks and jhbs.

But more than that, they can also speak other Chinese dialacts besides the Mandarin dialect. So in terms of linguistic skills, they beat sinkies flat.

Agreed, although they are multilingual and multidialectal, it is only at a superficial level, but for day to day convo, that is all that is needed right? Our English may be better, but do you use bombastic words and complex sentences to communicate with people? No right?

So our zommers who can only speak English and Mandarin will find jhk and jhb to be a bigger threat....compared with a pinoy, ceca, viet....